Oppo...help (Success!)

"cazzyodo" (cazzyodo) 11/25/2014 at 18:00 • Filed to: helplopnik

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I'm doing this

Because it is going to snow tomorrow. BUT WHY THE HELL WON'T IT COME OFF?!?

I know I am missing something. Literally have not changed a tire since drovers ed. It should just pop off...unless that center hub magically comes off.

Edit: I'm not completely stupid. Top pic was earlier.

Update: the force was with me. Judo Kick!

Tohru > cazzyodo 11/25/2014 at 18:03

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That's not a Goddamn hubcap you nutjob. You have to take the lugnuts off. Which means breaking them loose when the car is still on the ground.

Dr_Watson > cazzyodo 11/25/2014 at 18:04

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Because rust... Take the nuts off and kick the bottom of the tire until it pops off.

The *best* way however is before you even jack the car, back off the nuts a cm and shake the car like U-Conn just won something. The mass of the vehicle rocking side to side easily breaks lose the ferrous oxide welding job winter does on wheels.

cazzyodo > Tohru 11/25/2014 at 18:06

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Picture is from earlier. Here. I meant center hub thing saying ford. The fucking wheel wont come off and im fucking pissed.

jkm7680 > cazzyodo 11/25/2014 at 18:07

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Be sorta forceful.

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > cazzyodo 11/25/2014 at 18:08

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Go get a mallet. Alloys corrode slightly in the center essentially welding themselves on. Make sure the car is safely on jack stands and give it some force.

cazzyodo > Dr_Watson 11/25/2014 at 18:09

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I was afraid to do something like that cuz i grew up with the "dont force it" mantra and have a bit of a temper at times. Ill give it a shot after being fed haha. Thanks.

Nibbles > cazzyodo 11/25/2014 at 18:09

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Whack it with a mallet. Wiggle side to side. DO NOT DO ANY OF THESE THINGS WITHOUT BEING ON JACKSTANDS ASKMEHOWIKNOW

cazzyodo > Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. 11/25/2014 at 18:09

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Thanks. I was afraod to use force...getting fed now before i get too hangry

cazzyodo > Nibbles 11/25/2014 at 18:10

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I think i recall you saying how you know...

Bandit > cazzyodo 11/25/2014 at 18:12

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Time to get a giant mallet and hit the thing on opposite sides until it gets loose. Before you put the rim back on spray the hub with some sort of lubricant or something to prevent corrosion.

Racescort666 > cazzyodo 11/25/2014 at 18:13

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Give it a good kick. Sometimes wheels will stick to the hubs especially if they are hub centered. Be careful not to kick it off the jack. Alternatively, you could lower the car back to the ground with the lug nuts on very loose. Sometimes this will pop it loose. The way my buddy gets his wheels off his 1 ton dodge is he breaks all the lug nuts loose but leaves the nuts on, rolls the truck about a foot and slams on the brakes. He says this always works. Make sure to leave the lug nuts on but loose if you do this, your wheels will come off otherwise.

Dr_Watson > cazzyodo 11/25/2014 at 18:13

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Oh no (I live in Buffalo so I do this twice a year, every year)... this is one of those times when violence is the answer. Just be careful not to kick the car off the jack.

SlickMcRick > cazzyodo 11/25/2014 at 18:13

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Yea screw the mallet just donkey kick it. Guarantee it'll come right off.

Nibbles > cazzyodo 11/25/2014 at 18:13

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I dropped the rear of my truck - nearly removing hand from arm in the process - because of a seized drum, a rubber mallet and a scissor jack

I then proceeded to place another scissor jack under the truck and do the same thing

I cannot recommend you follow in these particular footsteps

cazzyodo > Bandit 11/25/2014 at 18:14

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Don't have anything handy (using someone's house to store my wheels) but will kick the crap out of these then lube it this weekend. Thanks

cazzyodo > Nibbles 11/25/2014 at 18:15

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It's the "do as i say not as i do" attitude that i tend to listen to.

Bandit > cazzyodo 11/25/2014 at 18:15

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If you are unsure of hitting the rim, put a scrap of 2x4 on it to buffer the wheel from the mallet.

Nibbles > cazzyodo 11/25/2014 at 18:17

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Good on ya

BaconSandwich is tasty. > Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. 11/25/2014 at 18:17

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I find usually giving it a good kick is enough to break them loose as well.

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > BaconSandwich is tasty. 11/25/2014 at 18:20

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Depends how badly corroded they are/ how hard you can kick, I've had one that took two people with a mallet hitting each side to dislodge.

Tohru > cazzyodo 11/25/2014 at 18:23

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Kick it. No, seriously. Kick the face of the rim. Left side, right side.

BaconSandwich is tasty. > Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. 11/25/2014 at 18:24

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Craziness. I guess I always swap my tires at least twice a year (winters-> summer, summer->winters), so they've never been on there too bad. That, and making sure to kick more toward the side wall of the tire rather than on the rim itself. Leverage FTW.

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > BaconSandwich is tasty. 11/25/2014 at 18:30

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We have pretty mild winters and my mam (owner of the car the wheel was stuck on) only does about 5-6k miles a year so they'd been on there a while.

Steve in Manhattan > cazzyodo 11/25/2014 at 19:01

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We were taught to jack the wheel up only a bit to break the nuts loose. Takes pressure off the bolts/hub, but keeps the wheel from moving around.

OPPOsaurus WRX > cazzyodo 11/25/2014 at 19:52

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Just wack it lol. Good to see you got it off. I'm guessing you don't rotate your tires. I actually put my winters on today to.

cazzyodo > OPPOsaurus WRX 11/25/2014 at 20:08

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Gave it a good kick haha. After that was cake. I dont rotate them myself cuz it's part of the oil change when i have it done.

Will with a W8 races an E30 > cazzyodo 11/25/2014 at 20:38

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Make sure to lube only the center bore - not the actual mounting face. If you lube the mounting face your're going to have a bad time.

Frank Grimes > cazzyodo 11/25/2014 at 20:38

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Just take a brisk run at the car and head butt into the wheel at the tire at approximatley 12 O'clock should hurt your head real good. Then when sitting holding your head with one hand give the tire sidewall near the rim a good hit and it should come loose.

Failing that get a lot of gallium and pour it all over the wheel careful not to get it on any aluminum you want to keep. Should melt that wheel right off.

cazzyodo > Frank Grimes 11/25/2014 at 21:15

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Fresh out of gallium. Wish i knew that before slamming my head

OPPOsaurus WRX > cazzyodo 11/25/2014 at 21:36

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With it being that stuck do u think they actually rotated them? Was it only 1?

Frank Grimes > cazzyodo 11/25/2014 at 21:41

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always read through the instructions fully before attempting repairs.
heres a good source for the gallium I just stocked up myself.

http://www.galliumsource.com/

cazzyodo > OPPOsaurus WRX 11/25/2014 at 22:06

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That was the only real problem one. And they do rotate...i check. It was crazy tight too in comparison to the others so i thibk that was a factor.

Jake, Yes, wearing khakis > cazzyodo 11/26/2014 at 10:12

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Just a recommendation for the next time you put your wheels on to avoid them "welding" themselves to the hub. Apply anti seize to the hub around the lip that the wheel sits on.
Similar to whats shown here. But I would use regular anti seize Rather than a copper based one like in this picture. This will help prevent the wheels from "welding" to the hub.

The stuff looks like this